The Holistic Care

sorry i can`t be specific right now about the pacient,a friend is going to make this person contact with me. all i know that is  last stage cancer.this person went into surgery i think twice.i experience from usui reiki that in this cases the best is to treat the situation, not directly the pacient,so i`m in doubt with kundalini, i feel that cuold amplify the pain...
please let me know anything to guide me. THANKS SO MUCH 4 BEING THERE.
Cecilia.

Dear Cecilia,
I do appreciate your concern.
You can send Reiki to the situation of the concerned healee. Any form. Only see that you dont send Reiki when any surgery is going on as this may neutralize the effect of the anaesthesia. Reiki might make the person active.
You can send Reiki before or after the surgery.
We send Reiki for the highest good. So there is not much to be vary off. be guided by your intuitions.
I do have some special techniques for cancer patients, which I advise by direct mail & only when I know the exact details. I will be most happy to help you.
In the meanwhile  Reiki on the way to the healee.
God Bless.

thank u so much, i`ll let u know when i get much details about this person.i`ll have in mind your advice.
bless u,your healing,and knowledge,you`re always there 4 everybody,thanks a lot with all my heart!

"Only see that you dont send Reiki when any surgery is going on as this may neutralize the effect of the anaesthesia. Reiki might make the person active."

I never heard of Reiki neutralizes the effect of the anaesthesia before.  I would like to see some data on the Reiki effects on drugs.  This is just a myth.  Reiki does not do any harm, so you can send any time.  Reiki is based on experiences.  Therefore, one should experience it your himself/herself.  Do not blindly believe in everything people told you or from books that you have read.

"There are no harmful side effects from Reiki.

In the two decades since Reiki Masters have been actively initiating practitioners in the west, there have been no reported cases of negative effects from Reiki.

There are a large number of cases where people have observed what at first appears to be negative effects. People with no understanding of the physiological healing processes of the body can misinterpret what they experience. When the body is undergoing a healing process, there can be short term effects which cause some discomfort.

For example, a person with an arthritic joint can have an increase of pain after the first few Reiki treatments. The Reiki will be increasing the circulation of blood to a joint that has had poor circulation for a number of years. The sudden increase in circulation can be painful at first. The end results will be great!

People with a great deal of accumulated stress or emotional blocks can find everything stirred up at first with treatments as their body starts to process the effects of the Reiki. Cancer patients often experience an increase in pain in the area of the tumor for the first few treatments."

Hello Dhl
I would like to tell you that is not good to cancell other members views or experiences only because you believe the opposite!
I believe that is not too polite to say that all who say this are liars...who telling myths and fairy tailes... 
I had plenty experiences of fast drug antitoxifications.Even if they were drugs,alcohol or anaisthesia....
It happend to my knee surgery once,to my fathers twice and before 3 weeks the police stoped me and a friend of mine for alcotest...after his birthday party!
We drunk the same (5 bottles of beer each one...)I did a technique for this case by giving Reiki to 3rd eye and Hara.In 20 minutes the alcohol in my blood decreased amazingly.My friends measurement was 0.58 where the limit is 0.25 and my measurement was only 0.04!
Can you explaine it ?
I have neutralized anaisthesia plenty of times...

Light and Joy

Dear Dong,
You have grossly misunderstood "neutralizing Anesthesia" is a harmful side effect of Reiki.
It just shows you the power of Reiki.
Anesthesia is always given just below the dosage required as a precautionary measure, you can confirm that with any good Anesthetist So it is most likely the patient will start getting conscious.
By the way I didn't read it in a book I have hands on experiences in dealing with such patients. Try it then tell me. Also other masters have agreed.
You are free to express views & you can hold on to them. Please read the post carefully. Don't just react to them. Spend time thinking what is told
God Bless

Hello Dhl
I would like to tell you that is not good to cancell other members views or experiences only because you believe the opposite!
I believe that is not too polite to say that all who say this are liars...who telling myths and fairy tailes... 
I had plenty experiences of fast drug antitoxifications.Even if they were drugs,alcohol or anaisthesia....
It happend to my knee surgery once,to my fathers twice and before 3 weeks the police stoped me and a friend of mine for alcotest...after his birthday party!
We drunk the same (5 bottles of beer each one...)I did a technique for this case by giving Reiki to 3rd eye and Hara.In 20 minutes the alcohol in my blood decreased amazingly.My friends measurement was 0.58 where the limit is 0.25 and my measurement was only 0.04!
Can you explaine it ?
I have neutralized anaisthesia plenty of times...

Light and Joy

Dear Black_Ki

I did not mean to call any one a liar.  It is not my intention here.  Is not this forum is to provide different point of view so the readers can learn?  I just wanted the new Reiki practitioners to know that Reiki does no harm and they should not "Blindly" listen to any one or "Blindly" believe in books that they have read.  Buddha also told his students, that they should not blindly believe in his teaching, but they should experience it for themselves.  "The truth is what works"...Buddha.  I agreed with you on the alcohol blood level story that you told and it is a good thing that Reiki has reduced the alcohol blood level for you and your friend.  I have seen many miracles from Reiki and all of the experiences are good.  Never see a negative one.  On other forum, we are free to express out opinion and debate in a harmony and nice manner.  For examle: Lola affraid if she used Reiki the pain might amplify.  This is just her assumption and I feel that I need to help these new Reiki folks with their Reiki journey.  Sometimes thing gets worse before it gets better.  Many people do not understand the physiological healing processes of the body can misinterpret what they experience. 

Dear Steve,

My intention is not to contradict your advice.  I am a Reiki Master in many modalities and have back ground in both medical and engineering so I know what you are talking about.  I have never had any patients with this experience using Reiki that's why I posted it here.  Many of my students are nurses and they also volunteer in the Reiki program at their hospitals (George Washington hospital in the United States) and never had these experiences.    May be you had this experience, but could it be because of the low dosage instead of Reiki.  One could never know.  I do not want the new Reiki pratitioners to think that Reiki can do harm.  I have heard many restrictions that people came up with like do not send long distance reiki to any one who is driving...do not treat patients with diabetics....These are assumptions that people came up with, which may scare the new Reiki pratitioners.  Reiki is simple!

Anesthesia is always given just below the dosage required as a precautionary measure, you can confirm that with any good Anesthetist So it is most likely the patient will start getting conscious.

.  The patient may become conscious because of the low dosage of Anesthesia.  There is no proof that Reiki is the cause.    Reiki knows what to do and it always does whatever it does for the patient's highest good.

Peace and harmony,

DHL

Dear Dong,
I have enough evidence to convince me that Reiki wakes up most who are under anesthesia.  I have discussed this with Reiki masters of vast experience & they have advised me so.
Reiki is sent for the highest good so there is no harm  in sending it, but the person can be in Trauma if woken suddenly. now who would want that. Besides there is ample time to send Reiki before & after.
I have mentioned that you can hold on to your view.
Let people decide whats good for them as they are intelligent enough & intuitive.
God Bless & all the Best 

Hello Dhl

Is not this forum is to provide different point of view so the readers can learn?  I just wanted the new Reiki practitioners to know that Reiki does no harm and they should not "Blindly" listen to any one or "Blindly" believe in books that they have read.

Well certainly this forum is to provide different point of views and I have to respect that but I would like to ask you something please.
What about broken bones? If someones leg is broken,the higher good of him is to have an as soon as possible recovery...right?
Reiki acts for the higher good dramaticaly fast then and the bones start recover very fast...
So if a doctor doesn't put the bones to the right place what would be happen then if we apply reiki energy?
It won't start recover fastly at a wrong position?
It will recover badly...but why?
Reiki will act as possitive as it should to...but what happened then?
I am looking forward for your comments...
Thank you

Light and Joy

HI bOYS!!!! I just want to add that what happened to me once was that i treated a pacient with cancer, she was in hospital,not conscious `cos of drugs, and the cancer was in most part of the body(don`t know how u call it in english) so when i send reiki she started to feel pain, so i went to the situation and asked her Higher self to do the best for her and what she was needing.The person that i was going to be in touch( didn`t happen yet) has a bit different situation `cos she `s not in hospital,but have being there twice.
the difference i see in both cases is that in the first one there wasn`t time to treated her directly,she spend a week in hospital and passed by,so my doubts were to know how to do the best in those cases, but now i believe that one has to let it flow and pay attention in a scanning sense, and give the best we have to the Higher Source.Now that i`m learning of u all and that i experiment a state of connection with my Higher self i`m much more confident on what to do.
love & light.
Lol.

Hello
Well done dear Cecilia !
You have our support to your healings!
Keep on doing the good work !

Light and Joy Blessings and Wishes

Well certainly this forum is to provide different point of views and I have to respect that but I would like to ask you something please.
What about broken bones? If someones leg is broken,the higher good of him is to have an as soon as possible recovery...right?
Reiki acts for the higher good dramaticaly fast then and the bones start recover very fast...
So if a doctor doesn't put the bones to the right place what would be happen then if we apply reiki energy?
It won't start recover fastly at a wrong position?
It will recover badly...but why?
Reiki will act as possitive as it should to...but what happened then?
I am looking forward for your comments...
Thank you

Light and Joy

I used to live under a country with a dictator and no one can express their opinions.  But now I live in America and this is the greatest country in the world where every one is entitled to express their opinions and that's how people learned.  They can see different point of views and make up their own minds.  If Steve asked me to keep my view to myself, then isn't that his way of telling me that his view is the only correct view?
On other forum, we discuss and debate without letting our egos get in the way.  It is healthy to see other point of views and sometimes other people can learn from these posts.  But if you do not want any want to express their point of views, then it seems to me that it is only one way. 

To get back to your question.  The broken bones was from Mrs. Takata.  People just learned from their RMs and just repeated the same thing.  My question back to you is "Have you treated any one with broken bones with Reiki?" or is this just what you learned from your RM?  If you have one patient, who you treated Reiki with broken bones and it did not healed correctly, then I would like to talk to this person.  I kept telling everyone to experience for themselves because Reiki is not based on knowledge, but it is based on experiences.  And "Yes, I have treated people with broken bones (right when it happened) and it healed perfectly fine".  Did I mentioned to you that I have medical back ground and many of my students are nurses?  Every one in my family from the father's generation down is a doctor.  We have treated many patients with broken bones and did not hear any compliants from the clients.
I just want harmony and peace and I have respect for all of you, but if you do not want to read my posts about my Reiki experiences, then I will not post it any more.

Dear  Lola,

Did you read my post?  Here is the quote.

Cancer patients often experience an increase in pain in the area of the tumor for the first few treatments.

Dear Dong,
You do keep posting.
You are most welcome. Your contribution is always valued.
I didn't tell you to keep your views to yourself as you say. I said you might not change yours and stick to it. Please express your views freely but don't get too judgemental.
As for the people let them decide.
By the way how do you know and are so sure that somebody is speaking not through experience & only through info by RM's.
Speaking about Takata. She was a student of Dr.Hayashi who was a very competent doctor.
What John is trying to say is Reiki is intelligent and will not catalyze healing if bone is not properly aligned. that will delay healing. Hence it helps if you physically align & then give Reiki to speed up Healing.
Also unfortunately all dont have nursing & medical experience to naturally help aligning it & then use Reiki. A little bit of precaution taken by Healers(who not always are medical experts) is not wrong . Thats why the RM's may have advised so. They have years of experience & their thoughts must never be discounted.
I have known many cases where the bones have aligned by itself, but still whats the harm to take precaution. Tell me do you  vouch for every treatment you give. So do even Doctors. Hence a little precaution is no harm. Isn't it against Reiki ethics to be judgemental.
Again I repeat,  please keep posting. Your experience will be valuable. 
God Bless.

Dear Dhl:
Sure i read all of it, please read mine that is below. In my case with a person who had cancer in most part of the body, couldn`t do that `cos she was already in pain.
Thank u very much 4 asking, and what u said was useful 4 me.Please keep sharing your experiences.


Dear John:
It`s very important 4 me to have your support, thanks a lot!
 

I`m growing with your experiences, learning different kind of things about reiki or not. Thanks very much 4 share everything!


Love & Light.
Lola.