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Query for difference in usui , Karuna and Kundlini Reiki

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Please let me know forum member what exaclty the differences in Usui, Karuna and kundlini Reiki,
what procedure we have to follow if we have done all these method.

how we can concentrate only on the single method if we have learnt all these Reiki Method or we can use it with mixed procdeure, will it has more powerfull while gving treatment.

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dear deepesh,
As far as i know, Its a different manifestation of the same energy.Original energy system was Usui.Later on, other systems of energy developed. In usui system, their are 3-levels of reiki and 4 symbols.And in karuna reiki,their are 3-levels and about 8 symbols.kundalini reiki does not use any symbol.Each symbol is intended for different purpose.After a reiki practitioner becomes adept in use of reiki, he doesn't even have to use these symbols, as it is the intention which works in any of the systems given above.
You can choose any of the above reiki system for a treatment but should have regular practice and comfort level to use that system of energy.
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Dear Deepesh,
This query has been addressed many times on the forum. Kindly use the search facility to get access to them.
Lots of other info on the forum that will help your development.
Sanjeev has given you technical differences regarding the modalities/energies.
But the differences & similarities are much more yet subtle at the esoteric levels.
Consider the energy/Ki on a spectral level. You can divide it into energy bands or frequencies.
No band/frequency is greater or lesser than the other, each has its own importance.
Also no modality completely covers the energy spectrum.
Each modality complements the other, none is better than the other. Also healing facilitated by a child, master, a seasoned practitioner is equally important. All complement towards complete healing.
Personally I use Karuna KI which is the most complete & refined, moreover free form of Karuna Reiki. The other versions by William Rand & Kathleen Milner are patented & highly controversial.
I am considering offering Karuna KI (by Vincent Amador) in the near future.The Lineage will be Vincent Amador- Stephen(me)-----. But it is going to be slightly conditional. I divide it into 2 levels of attunements.
Karuna Ki as the word suggests is a love centered energy. the symbols are very powerful & the meditative mudras are great too. I have used it in healing Cancer Patients & Mental based illnesses, Trauma, Abused & self-abused cases. Many thanks to Vincent Amador. He honestly claims that he has consciously developed the modality & no divine gift like the others mostly claim.
I use it standalone or along with Usui Reiki.
Coming back to Usui Reiki, I don't agree with Sanjeev that its a original system. Such energy form already existed in India (Prana Shakti). Also the symbols resemble the Indian Devanagari script if you observe them carefully. This healing art later went to Tibet. The Tibetan Brahmi script is very similar to Devanagri. Later Usui modified it in the present symbols. Initially he too didn't use symbols. It's no doubt a great system & I am a follower of Sensei Mikao Usui. His efforts are pioneering in the current healing era.
Also worth mentioning are the other schools of Japanese KI systems which preceded Reiki & some other which ran parallel.
The mysticism to Reiki was added by Dr. Chujiro Hayashi & to a more extent by Mrs. Hawayo Takata. But the spread of the modern Reiki system is their great contribution.
Later there were lot of controversies as to who was the real Grand Master & what was the true Reiki system. There was a controversy & legal matter between William Rand, Phyllis Furumoto(Hawayo's grand daughter) & Kathleen Milner regarding this.Also Money, greed & Ego was the central point of this arguments.
Later years James Deacon & Richard Rivard visited Japan & other places & contributed to demystifying Reiki. Their invidual work is highly applaud able & removes all doubts about Reiki. Sad that many people/masters are still imprisoned with old views of Reiki & the stories that went along with it.
Usui Reiki Rhoyo is a great system. Many healers still use only use this system very successfully. Many other systems both at esoteric & physical level can be incorporated with Usui Reiki.
Kundalini Reiki has more Earth Energy & Ole Gabrielsen its founder is a good friend. It is great for personal development & dealing with energy blockages. It is well devised & stresses on the energy meridians more dominantly the Kundalini passage. It is offered fortnightly at the forum by Mohan.
I hope I have answered your queries. However there may be other views on the topic.
Thank you.
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Thanx Mr Sanjeev and Stephem,

I appreciate boths veiw on Reiki systems, Accually I am new to this energy , I have recieved Only USUI Level 1 attunement distantly and doing my practise regularly. I have many experience with this divine power in this little time period and I am very much curiose to Know more About this miracle technique.

yes Mr Stephene I gone through many question Answers in this forum but I did'nt find its answer anywhere.
One more thing I wanted to share you I am also a Hardware Engineer and I am a Incharge of a technical team.

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Deepesh
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Grounding and centering exercises would be very useful for you especially if you are around computers a lot. The more you increase the amount of energy you have available to you, the more important it is to keep it flowing smoothly to avoid damaging electronic devices. I've never broken a watch even wearing it while giving an attunement in person, but I've heard from people who have broken so many watches that they have stopped wearing them. They've fried their computers, too, making it difficult to discuss their experiences over the internet. Sometimes I get an unusual amount of static electricity shocks even during humid weather and I take this as a sign to focus on grounding exercises. It usually stops fairly quickly.
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Thank you Tom for the usefull information. My experience are always postive , i felt postive result many times while repairing of computers, it generally seems that whenever our intend is postive definelty result will be positive.

I have a query about silent healing means healing to a person who is sick and he is not in the position to give permission.so what will be the procedure as i heard that we should take permission before reiki healing.

Awaiting for reply if anyone can give its answer.

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Re: Query for difference in usui , Karuna and Kundlini Reiki

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Dear Deepesh,
Nice to know that we are in the same professional field.
Well dear there were some previous post that addressed your initial query about Reiki modalities.
Here is the post........
I don't think any Reiki system is better than the others. The comparisons are not necessary.
The Usui Reiki system is excellent on its own. I have known & seen miracles happen frequently at Usui Reiki 1/Usui Reiki 2.
Every energy system is part of the huge spectrum of the singular Universal Life Force.
The energy starts at the low band of the spectrum to high. there are subtle differences between the two adjacent bands & so on. Each band can further consists of more constituents & so on.
Higher frequency doesn't necessarily mean better. it simply means a different type. The amplitude is a different factor itself.
Take the example of music to simplify the explanation. there is the bass at low frequencies(sub 900Hz), mid(900Hz to 6000Hz) & Treble(the high frequencies). Some sound frequencies at both ends of the spectrum are not even perceived.
They all complement to get a particular kind of a sound or a particular characteristic sound of an instrument. One cannot say what is better. The sounds are all complementary. Each equally important.
So no system can claim to be better than the other. Healing is a complicated & subtle process at the same time.
However the systems can complement each other to speed healings in some cases. That includes Lightarian Reiki
Also some modalities can clear certain blockages better, not necessarily a particular illness.
It also depends on the individuals faith in a certain system.
This is a perennial question on many forums & I don't mind answering it again & again to the point of debate. ;) ;D
Other people may differ in opinion & I respect that. This is quantum physics & not a exact science. To get close to perfection one has to ascend beyond human levels into the Ethers.

Here is the original link to the post Division of Reiki into Bands of Energy
Coming to your new query.....
Better to always start a new post on a different topic.
This query has also been addressed.
Its a good habit to start Reiki with a Opening Prayer that includes the Attitude of Gratitude------Protection-------------Calling on spiritual guides---------. To add to that also affirm that your healing is for the highest good of the person. This takes care of all Karmic cycles. The healing goes to the higher self of the person.
So even if the person physically rejects or is a non believer it does not matter. His Higher Self will absorb what is best for him.
You can also mention & affirm that the healing is directed to the person's Higher self when the person has not granted permission.
Remember its the divine Spirit which is healing, not us.
As Tom said, grounding is very very important.
If you do self healing on all Chakra Positions Front, Back & additional minor chakras followed by grounding, daily or as often as possible your Energy Channels will widen & energy flow will be better.
Thanks for the query Deepesh.
It is always a pleasure to help.
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Thanks Stephen, really its suitable example of sounf frequencey specially for a tehnical person.
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