Attun.feed back and children

[gaid39]

hello to all my friends and brothers
First it is an aswer to topic started by Lola but the ideas  I includ in need to be noticed as a new topic.

I am Ok with you steve and agree with all what you have said. Speaking about attunement process and other experiences is highly appreciated .Some Masters and explorers can pick out new divine paths coming through attunements and cannot be seen or noticed by the attunee him self.Some attunements include not only the attunement process but also other messages from the divine world that only some masters and explorers are able to find them out and transform them to new horizons of healing energy and spiritual developpement to the highest good of the world.
About the children, not only the attuned ones are important to tell their experiences with the attunements but the children are very very important even not attuned. The children and the babies are innocents and they canalize pure positive enrgies and they can see easily the aura when some masters cannot.So,I advise every one,as I do, to touch always ,with love and compassion,the heads of the children and babies in order to receive from them these pure and positive energies that emanate from them continiously.
thanks again Steve and all friends especially  my friend and the Great Master Mohan who give me the occasion and the opportunity to speak about this things in his wonderful forum.
Allah ,love and Light bless you 

[lola]

HI fRIEND!! i agree, it is true that children are born with The Magic Light, and adults need to realize that it`s highly necessary to let them grow free with that energy-light, no need to "teach" them useless things of society, people should live as ONE,should be as ONE, as Lennon says in Imagen...
The thing is that when we grow older we forgot about that Gift that we have when we `re born...and 4 me that`s `cos education and society, it`s urgent that people change/open their conscious.
HOPEFULLY we have indig and christal children to help us!

love and light!!
Ceci-Lola.

[hotice_steve]

Dear Friends,

How true.
No replacement for Innocence.
God Bless

[John.Apostolidis]

Hello family!  hehe!
I would like to put a comment at this place and I would like to have your attention...
It is ok with Reiki users to touch babies or young people like their parents but it is sometimes dangerus for these little human creatures to be with old people even if there are love bands between them...because old people and I don't want to be misunderstood plz. involuntary they drain life force from them normally.
You can see that if you give a baby to his/her too old grandfather for a long period og time...the old man will be happy as normal every human being does when has a baby on his/her hands and the old man will sparkle with vitality.
This sometimes may have a negative effects to the baby...

Thanks
Light and Joy

[lola]

HI U ALL!
I agree with u Blacki, i also dislike when someone touch my son crown chacra or mine, simply don`t like it. and it is true that happens that with energy, often not intentionally, but happens.babies are so pure that need protected mostly in terms of energy.

ceci

[hotice_steve]

Dear Friends,
I think we worry too much about the kids. lol!
I have lived with a big family. My mother raised & help raise up more than 24 kids. many in front of me.
Children especially Infants are well protected by the Almighty. If at all the kids are harmed by the negativities, it is most likely to be from the mother. lol !
In India we have a small ritual done on kids after daily bathing. Its done to ward off the evil eyes. It is done by the oldest in the family or the old nurse who takes care of the child. The first name they take to keep the child protected from is the mother's.
Kids respond to Reiki very well. The flow is rapid & ends quickly bcoz of the free flow & fewer blockages.
remember the best position is the sole of the feet. rest you do in absentee & far from the Aura.
And don't you worry the child's life force is well & regularly replenished by the Almighty.
God Bless

[John.Apostolidis]

Hello
Thank you Lola...hehe! 
Firstly I want to ask my friend Stephen what the Almighty realy is!     
The evil eye in my opinion is something different from the life force draining...although both could happen at the same time !
I think that all cultures from all over the world have such protective rituals...Here in Orthodoc Cristianic Greece we called this chrisma which is a ritual where a priest crosses with olive oil from a candle the forehead (3rd eye) the Solar plexus the palms and soles of the baby....the ritual for the evil eye dispell is called Bascania and is formally priests job but many simple people does it ...me too ...hehe!\
In Greece most families do not leave their babies to sleep with their grandparents at night...most of them really don't know why they are taught to act like this...but this is the reason I said before...!

[Suzi]

I'm sorry but I don't believe that all negativity that goes to a child is from its mother.  You only have to look at how some fathers have behaved when they have had a daughter born instead of the hoped for son.  How can the negativity be blamed on the mother, unless its someone who isn't willing to except responsibilty for their thoughts, beliefs and actions, so find it easier to pass the blame.

Regards
Suzi

[hotice_steve]

Dear Suzi,
I didn't mean to blame the mother. Mothers  are in the closest proximity of the child. Since we were talking about direct contact with the child. I simply put forward a senario, not my view tho.
Sorry Suzi you took the extreme side of things.
About some fathers yes, you are right.
As for children in our family we never stopped anybody touching them. its all out of love.
The more you think about negatives the more they grow on your mind. thats my personal view.
God Bless

[John.Apostolidis]

Dear Suzi  namaste

Here is a misunderstanding that I tried to avoid....  :-\
I there is not a problem the parents but the very old people......  :-\
And it is not negativity in most cases exept if there is  jealousy....  :-X
It is life energy draining....  :o
Although your view has my respect....  ;D  

Light and Joy ,Blessings and Wishes  ;D

[Suzi]

Stephen there is no need to apologise.  You expressed your views and I responded, as far as I was concerned we were having a healthy conversation.  I reread my post and even got my husband to check and I had as I believed just expressed my view with a scenario that anyone from any country would relate to, I didn't pass judgement nor did I come across that way. 

A person is entitled to their beliefs and views, they have their path to journey down and lesson's to learn, as do I.  I am happy and secure in my thoughts and beliefs and open minded enough not to force my opinion on anyone.  However up until now was enjoying the conversations taking place.  A person has to understand that if they speak of their ideas and beliefs not everyone is going to agree with them, this is when we have to stand by them but respect another enough to allow them theirs.  Nobody can make everyone happy, unless a lot of lying was going on lol.

I don't see that I had taking this to the extreme nor did I misunderstand and I'll explain why:

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If at all the kids are harmed by the negativities,


This is a scenario.

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Children especially Infants are well protected by the Almighty.  It is most likely to be from the mother. lol !

This is a view point/belief.

I came here to learn and to have some nice chats with individuals who had the same interest in reiki.  I certainly didn't come here to cause anyone distress, however I will be honest.  I respected your views, as I do with all the members here who post but I think its unfair to say that I missunderstood and took it to the extreme when I didn't, I simply expressed my thoughts.

Regards
Suzi

[lola]

GUAUUU! this is simply fantastic!!!!   i mean our different interpretations...great! it`s a big knowledge.
May i say that sometimes it`s true what means Steve(care from mum) i believe that as mums we make mistakes when we want to protect our childs, sometimes we over protect them...and sometimes not do it from us...and believe me i`m learning from myself.
i think we get a different point of view of the same thing of course related from what we lived and where.
and Steve..would explain Almighty?
Also DEARS FRIENDS as i was reading all what u wrote it`s clear that we`re all talking about our experiences (separately) so may be with out intention,of course, touch delicate things that may be happened to us, that can make us misunderstand what the other says, remember we`re knowing each other. But we`re making the process to unite these views into one, that`s great!
( i feel it probably that we could answer the messages by intution,i guess that what sometimes we answer has to do with what the other need, so may be it would be good not to generalised..came to my mind...
I want to thank u very much for thEsE different views, WONDERFULL!!

Love & Peace.
Cecilia.

[Suzi]

I never disputed that it isn't sometimes the mother I just don't believe its most likely from the mother.  This hasn't touched on any experiences it is simply my take on it.

For example negativity could come from neighbours who find a child or children too loud.  There is no malice just simply that, that  person requires quiet but the noise has irritated to one degree or another and it has created some amount of negativity.  If the situation is left to fester rather than deal with in a fair manner then the negativity will build up.

I can think of so many possibilites that for me it seems unlikely that it is 'most likely' the mother, this is all I was saying.

Regards
Suzi

[Suzi]

Lola, I agree that mother's can sometimes be over protective and of course this would have a knock on effect.

I enjoyed reading your thoughts and views.

Regards
Suzi

[hotice_steve]

Dear Friends, 
Its nice to have opinions. All welcome.

I apologized Suzi bcoz as an afterthought I felt that I must have gone overboard & hurt some sentiments. But I did stir up something.  

Am Still talking the proximity factor that John was talking about. Where the mother is the closest to the child most of the time then anybody else. Hence the most likely to transfer the negativity if at all such things happen. I was not talking about any other factors except proximity. I have not used the term "only the mother", but "most likely the mother".
When  doing a Reiki session I never think of catching anybodies negativities. After offering the attitude of gratitude I say this, " I declare my body to be that of myself, , . I declare that each & every healee has accepted Reiki for his highest good & healed in body, mind, spirit & emotions by Reiki, permanently & irreversibly. I then do all body positions. & repeat all affirmations in the end.
Good to always be in the affirmative & positive. I was taught not to think & say anything negative. I am conditioned that way. The more you think about negatives the more they grow on your mind. Obstruct the Reiki flow.Thats my personal view.

By the way John & Cecelia by "Almighty" I mean "The Source." all energies have a source, don't they. You can call it God, Allah, Brahma, Zeus  nothing at all, whatever your belief.